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		<title>By: countercritic</title>
		<link>http://countercritic.com/2007/08/24/i-thought-we-dealt-with-this-yesterday/#comment-629</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG, A.M.! First of all, you&#039;re totally awesome for participating on the confab. Believe it or not, we started this site for the purpose of fostering  discussion. And you get extra props for knowing how to write a difference of opinion without needing to get all bitchy and weird, which many people in the blogosphere haven&#039;t quite been able to master. 

That said, there does exist, at least in the arts in the United States, a conscious division between art that is political-identity focused, and that which is purely sensual or aesthetic. And the last line of your review (&quot;But the main spell of “Accounting for Customs” is of a beauty that transcends any socio-cultural message. “) succinctly places you on one side of this division. 

When I was discussing your review with an art curator friend of mine, who generally takes the other side of the argument, she even anticipated and said, &quot;He didn&#039;t use the word &quot;transcend,&quot; did he?&quot; That word has particular resonance to those who feel there are people who resist absorbing political realities in art  that is intentionally addressing racial issues. My friend pointed out a great example of this in her criticsm of the Guggenheim&#039;s Mapplethorpe exhibition of a few years back that compared his photographs with classical figurative art. Her disagreement with the show was that is reduced Mapplethorpe&#039;s work, which was shocking for its depiction of black and gay eroticism, to simple form, or, at the very least, attempted to defend his work by focusing on its formal conceipts while allowing the potentially inflamatory political realities to takea  back seat.

It just seemed to us that you were escaping dealing with the explicit political nature of &quot;Accounting for Customs.&quot; That&#039;s all.

And, that said, we appreciate your participation in C.C. You&#039;re kind of a celebrity around here, if somewhat of an invented nemesis. Keep things kickin&#039; at The Times. We&#039;re definitely paying attention.

xoxoC.C.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, A.M.! First of all, you&#8217;re totally awesome for participating on the confab. Believe it or not, we started this site for the purpose of fostering  discussion. And you get extra props for knowing how to write a difference of opinion without needing to get all bitchy and weird, which many people in the blogosphere haven&#8217;t quite been able to master. </p>
<p>That said, there does exist, at least in the arts in the United States, a conscious division between art that is political-identity focused, and that which is purely sensual or aesthetic. And the last line of your review (&#8220;But the main spell of “Accounting for Customs” is of a beauty that transcends any socio-cultural message. “) succinctly places you on one side of this division. </p>
<p>When I was discussing your review with an art curator friend of mine, who generally takes the other side of the argument, she even anticipated and said, &#8220;He didn&#8217;t use the word &#8220;transcend,&#8221; did he?&#8221; That word has particular resonance to those who feel there are people who resist absorbing political realities in art  that is intentionally addressing racial issues. My friend pointed out a great example of this in her criticsm of the Guggenheim&#8217;s Mapplethorpe exhibition of a few years back that compared his photographs with classical figurative art. Her disagreement with the show was that is reduced Mapplethorpe&#8217;s work, which was shocking for its depiction of black and gay eroticism, to simple form, or, at the very least, attempted to defend his work by focusing on its formal conceipts while allowing the potentially inflamatory political realities to takea  back seat.</p>
<p>It just seemed to us that you were escaping dealing with the explicit political nature of &#8220;Accounting for Customs.&#8221; That&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>And, that said, we appreciate your participation in C.C. You&#8217;re kind of a celebrity around here, if somewhat of an invented nemesis. Keep things kickin&#8217; at The Times. We&#8217;re definitely paying attention.</p>
<p>xoxoC.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair Macaulay</title>
		<link>http://countercritic.com/2007/08/24/i-thought-we-dealt-with-this-yesterday/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alastair Macaulay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just found this by accident. You write &quot;what I’m sure he thinks is a well-meant effort&quot;. If (so you claim - I don&#039;t) I thought it was well-meant, then it WAS well-meant. I can&#039;t write something thinking it&#039;s well-meant when in fact it&#039;s ill-meant. 

If you think I try to avoid political issues (I hope you don&#039;t, but your own meaning is hard to elicit from your prose), check out some of my &quot;FT&quot; reviews of plays about Harold Pinter&#039;s &quot;Ashes to Ashes&quot;, the &quot;Guantanamo:Honor Bound to Defend Freedom&quot; docudrama, the &quot;Bloody Sunday&quot; Scenes from the Saville Inquiry&quot; docudrama, the &quot;Color of Justice&quot; docudrama about the Stephen Lawrence Inquiry, etc., all of which I admired both as politics and drama. I just don&#039;t think &quot;Accounting for Customs&quot;, which I so much liked, was interesting primarily as politics. Sorry if this is a problem for you.

All best,

Alastair Macaulay]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found this by accident. You write &#8220;what I’m sure he thinks is a well-meant effort&#8221;. If (so you claim &#8211; I don&#8217;t) I thought it was well-meant, then it WAS well-meant. I can&#8217;t write something thinking it&#8217;s well-meant when in fact it&#8217;s ill-meant. </p>
<p>If you think I try to avoid political issues (I hope you don&#8217;t, but your own meaning is hard to elicit from your prose), check out some of my &#8220;FT&#8221; reviews of plays about Harold Pinter&#8217;s &#8220;Ashes to Ashes&#8221;, the &#8220;Guantanamo:Honor Bound to Defend Freedom&#8221; docudrama, the &#8220;Bloody Sunday&#8221; Scenes from the Saville Inquiry&#8221; docudrama, the &#8220;Color of Justice&#8221; docudrama about the Stephen Lawrence Inquiry, etc., all of which I admired both as politics and drama. I just don&#8217;t think &#8220;Accounting for Customs&#8221;, which I so much liked, was interesting primarily as politics. Sorry if this is a problem for you.</p>
<p>All best,</p>
<p>Alastair Macaulay</p>
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		<title>By: Jowitt on Jasperse; And some elaboration on why talking about money in art is lame &#171; countercritic</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] defend an artist&#8217;s right to make their work, officially, &#8220;about&#8221; something. I was sternly critical of Alastair Macaulay&#8217;s comments on Reggie Wilson and Andréya Ouamb&#8217;s &#8220;Accounting for Customs,&#8221; which got a lot [...]]]></description>
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